I didn’t try botox until I was 31. And even then I got a BABY BIT amount just for my 11s and crows feet. I felt I was ready for it for prevention purposes. I continue to research, so I wanted to ask an EXPERT and get some valuable insights on this topic. I’m obsessed with skincare– I just love to know. Everything.
Y’all know I am NUTSO (bat shit crazy) about skincare and wellness. I’ve been wanting to work with the perfect place for all those needs for awhile now. Man oh man did I do hours upon hours upon hours of research. Obsessively. I ended up being the MOST impressed with Pacific Plastic Surgery Group. Like HAD to work with them. Their reviews are outstanding and I’m so dang impressed by their staff and their education and experience. They are the CREAM of the crop.
I’m cocky as heck with skincare lol, I think to myself.. I know a lot already! But even I was able to find an Esthetician who could teach me some things. Alyson has been the skincare Goddess of my dreams lol. (Read THIS about chemical peels! My favorite!)
For this article, I really wanted to interview Dr. Miranda because he gets such rave reviews for his skills with Botox and fillers. It took a month to nail something down with him, but I finally got in! Patience for the things that are worthwhile, you know?
I collected multiple questions from the Violet Fog Nice Girl’s Club Facebook group as well. Enjoy the interview, hopefully you find a lot of value in this if Botox is something you are considering now or down the line!
VF: How long has Botox been around for?
Dr. Miranda: It has been around for about 25 years now, since the late 80s. It was originally created here in San Francisco by an Ophthalmologist.
What is the most common area treated?
The frown lines between the eyebrows (the 11’s) and the crows feet.
What is the easiest place to treat on the face?
That exact combination- the frown lines and crows feet. It has the highest satisfaction rate and lowest pain! Also lowest risk involved.
Look how tiny the needle is!!!! I pictured it being WAY bigger lol.
How easy is it to treat the forehead? Lots of women are concerned about their forehead wrinkles, not just the 11’s.
I’m very cautious about treating the forehead because those horizontal lines are formed differently. There is a tug of war happening all the time with the forehead. There’s muscles that are being pulled up and above the eye, and gravity pulling it down- a sign of aging. And then you have the frown line muscles activated all the time (the 11s) AND the crow’s feet muscles on the side of the face. So there is a massive tug of war. We can’t get rid of the gravity, but we can relax the muscles. This will make it so the forehead doesn’t have to be so tight and pulled up, which causes the lines. When done right, you can still maintain expression. Some Doctors just treat the wrinkle and inject it, but then you have the risk of losing expression. For 90% of men and women, just doing the 11s and the crow’s feet would make a significant difference in the lines across the forehead. It’ll also subtlety elevate your eyebrows in a good way. Just injecting the wrinkle itself can potentially drop your eyelids and no one wants that. <—takeway: treat the muscles around it first and not JUST the wrinkle. Find someone who understands this!
Women with hooded eyes: if you have botox in your forehead, which relaxes the muscles, do you run the risk of making your eyes even more hooded?
Yes, absolutely. And that’s exactly what I mean by injecting the crows feet and 11s instead of just straight into the forehead. Injecting the crow’s feet area can actually improve hooding of the eyes as well.
Can anyone be allergic to Botox? And when it breaks down over time, how does our body dispose of it?
There have been reported cases of allergic reactions to Botox, but it is EXTREMELY rare. In 17 years of using Botox I personally have never experienced any patients dealing with that. As for how the body disposes of it… when you first inject Botox, it binds to the proteins and the nerves to prevent signaling to the muscles. (So they don’t fire as much.) This degrades over time and is metabolized through the body just like any other protein would. You don’t detect botox over time in your system, it just flushes out. It’s broken down into amino acids.
Is there a way to make your Botox last longer?
Unfortunately there is not really a way to make your botox last longer. In some people, if it’s done regularly, they can increase their length of time in which it lasts. Botox lasts on average about 4 months. Some people do report that their Botox lasts about 6 months- in my experience, those people have been getting botox regularly for years.
If you stop getting Botox after awhile, what happens?
You go back to normal. Exactly how you were pre-botox. That’s the beauty of botox, it’s clean on, clean off. If you don’t like it, it goes away! If you like it… unfortunately it goes away!
What is the most common thing that can go wrong with botox?
That’s a very easy question– the most common thing is a bruise. And when I say bruise, it typically means a tiny little thing typically smaller than the same of a dime that’s easily covered with makeup. We recommend Arnica (an all natural supplement) to help prevent/treat any bruising that may occur after Botox. You can buy oral or topical Arnica at Whole Foods or Mollie Stones or our practice provides it complimentary after treatment.
What about the lines around your mouth? The nasolabial folds also called the “parenthesis.” What are your thoughts on this and Botox?
Most women are not getting Botox for this. Typically it’s filler. Examples of filler include Juvederm or Restylane. Those lines form from loss of volume in the face, loss of fat, loss of bone volume. This plus gravity can mean deeper folds in the skin.
I want to ask you about your technique, because I’ve seen you administer Botox to patients and I’ve heard that you have “soft hands”… what does that mean?
You have to be gentle, you don’t want to cause trauma. You want to minimize bruising. You want to disperse the Botox evenly, not in lumps and bumps. You want it nice and spread out. You want it sitting in all the areas not just concentrated in one area. The other thing that is important is to take your time.
What is something readers should note when it comes to choosing who they go to to treat botox?
You need to find someone who will treat not the wrinkle necessarily, but what is causing the wrinkle. Unfortunately, most injectors will go straight for the winkle and then they end up compromising the patient’s expression. So make sure whoever is treating you is treating the cause- the muscle that needs to be relaxed, as opposed to the actual wrinkle. It’s much more natural and subtle that way. Attention to detail on each patient’s face and the expressions they make (and wanting to improve it) is very important. Find someone who will take the time to really evaluate the entire face and not just the wrinkle.
Is there anything that makes botox wear down QUICKER?
Exercising those muscles. If you are actively are trying to move the muscles that were treated, the botox will break down at a quicker rate. Some say sun exposure and increased exercise can make Botox wear down faster as well. Extra exercise = increased metabolism and that wears down the Botox effects.
What about Botox for headaches?
It works really well for certain people. Many headaches (migraine and some tension headaches) occur because there is a muscle compressing a nerve. Most common area is above the eyebrows right around that 11s area. Also the temples and in the back of the neck. By injecting Botox, you weaken that muscle so it’s not pinching the nerve. With proper diagnose you can really reduce the intensity and/or the frequency of those headaches. The red-flag in this is that a lot of Physicians will inject all over- in as many as 20 sites. That kind of shotgun approach will work but then you’re also injecting a lot of areas that don’t need to be injected. You need to figure out exactly where the tension is lying.
THANK YOU TO DR. MIRANDA and Pacific Plastic Surgery!
They have multiple treatment plans for Botox and filler, in which you can be on a payment plan for as little as $70/month for your botox instead of paying bigger lump sums. They have added bonuses and gifts in their programs as well. All for saving money and perks wherever I can! I know VFers are the same way…. who isn’t actually? Haha.
Pacific Plastic Surgery group (PPSG) is truly an outstanding practice and y’all- I would recommend them a thousand times over.
Katey || INFP || Founder/Director of Violet Fog ||